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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:59 pm

There's only so much Zelensky can do when his biggest ally has turned into one of two bullies he's fighting.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... gined-gaza

Good lord that makes me want to throw up.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by eny » Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:20 pm

Yup, absolutely crass and sub-human.

Also, this:


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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Stormbringer » Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:46 pm

Raid wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:59 pm
There's only so much Zelensky can do when his biggest ally has turned into one of two bullies he's fighting.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... gined-gaza

Good lord that makes me want to throw up.
This is very disturbing.
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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:14 pm

Watch the video that's linked here. It is truly astonishing, I don't think I've ever seen a televised argument between the US President and another world leader.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c625ex282zzt

Good on you Volodymyr for challenging the arseholes, but honestly that's just not going to help. It's evident that all Trump and Vance care about is looking strong in their own media, to the point where they're willing to throw diplomacy off of a bridge to do it. I fully believe Trump is petty enough to say "Get out, no deal" if you embarrass him in front of a camera.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Mantis » Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:36 pm

He's just done exactly that. Conference cancelled and Zelenskyy is leaving early.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Animalmother » Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:41 pm

Good on him, that's a deal with the literal devil he was making. Didn't Trump have a little bit of bother with Macron and Starmer as well during the week. Those pesky Europeans!

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:50 pm

Urgh. I really, really hate to say it, but Trump was right about one thing; he held all of the cards in that negotiation, and no amount of his being wrong was ever going to change that. I respect the hell out of Zelenskyy, but arguing with that moron in front of a camera was not a good idea.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Mantis » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:23 pm

I suspect the entire thing was a trap to get him in front of cameras so they could bully the shit out of him and then use him refusing to sign the deal as justification for dropping all further support for Ukraine and lifting sanctions on Russia. Zelenskyy showed remarkable restraint given the absolute barrage of shit that was being thrown his way there.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:29 pm

Nah, I'm pretty sure Trump did actually want to extort Ukraine's mineral supply out of him. I think he understands (or more likely had it explained by Musk until he finally got it) that putting massive tariffs on China where 80% of the US' rare earth mineral imports come from means they need to secure another supply.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Mantis » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:47 pm

Why would you invite someone to sign an unfavourable deal which doesn't really offer much direct support and then absolutely lay into them in front of the entire world though? The art of deal indeed.

Supposedly it was Trump who asked Zelenskyy to leave without signing the deal too. So he has actively prevented them from doing so when the reporters are claiming Ukraine wanted to stay to continue the talks.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by ManBearSquid » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:54 pm

Well that boiled my blood, piss, and my sweat. Utterly deplorable way to go about discussions over such a serious situation. Petulant twats that want to feel empowered through the grovelling and gratitude of those in need regardless of the fact that they don't actually have any interests but their own in mind.
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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:58 pm

Mantis wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:47 pm
Why would you invite someone to sign an unfavourable deal which doesn't really offer much direct support and then absolutely lay into them in front of the entire world though? The art of deal indeed.
I genuinely don't think there's a reason other than "this guy is disrespecting me in front of my media in my White House". The guy has skin thinner than paper, and all Trump has to do is get his good buddy Putin to bomb a few more schools to get Zelenskyy to crawl back.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Animalmother » Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:09 pm

I suspect Russia will be getting intelligence on Ukrainian military positions in the next few days.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by eny » Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:09 pm

Jesus, trump and vance are two sacks of shit.
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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Wrathbone » Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:39 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c625ex2 ... f328a#post

Where do you even begin picking this apart? Absolutely sickening.

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