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Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:02 am
by DjchunKfunK
Wrathbone wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:30 pm
Sorry, but that's an outrageous statement. If you're implying that the extent and methods of protests should not have limits then you're basically advocating terrorism.
One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter but I wasn't really talking about that and I think you know that. This topic has been derailed enough so I will leave it there.

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:07 am
by Wrathbone
What I know is that when you start down that line of thinking, it leads to situations like the IRA.

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:33 pm
by Raid
Christ, Ferrari fans don't get it easy, do they? :lol: Proper heart-in-mouth stuff at the end, and I yelled at my TV for Sainz to get out with flame spreading surprisingly rapidly towards the cockpit (I'm guessing he couldn't engage the handbrake and held the car on the brakes as he didn't want a fireball rolling onto the track).

There was some decent racing this week, but my favourite part was Alonso wagging his finger at an Alpha Tauri while heading into a braking zone after overtaking it.

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:54 pm
by Wrathbone
I switched over for maybe 20 seconds to check on an xbox download, thinking the racing had stabilised somewhat, and came back to Sainz on fire. #-o Sums up Ferrari's season quite well.

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:18 pm
by Drarok
That finger wag had me cackling at the TV, fucking incredible. :D

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:59 pm
by eny
Astounding news that Bernie "I would take a bullet for Putin" Ecclestone is to be charged for fraud by misrepresentation, namely, hiding £400m from the UK taxpayer overseas....Shocked! Shocked I tell you!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/62119689

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:14 pm
by Drarok
Wait, are you suggesting they're going after him now because he backed Putin, or just that he's a general piece of shit?

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:40 pm
by eny
No, just added that in as he said it earlier this year...he's always been a piece of shit...

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:28 pm
by Raid
Charles Leclerc, as scripted by Drive To Survive's Will Buxton.

https://www.racefans.net/2022/07/24/lec ... ing-crash/

Yes Charles. Honestly, between Charles' mistakes and Ferrari's strategy calls, I'm not sure it's possible for him to win a championship against Max Verstappen and the usually pretty competent Red Bull. It's almost certainly over for this year now, with a 63 point gap between Max and Charles, not forgetting that at one point the former had a deficit of 40-odd points. A swing of over 100 points is just mad in this sport.

I've seen worse races I suppose, but I doubt we need more proof that this just isn't a good race track. The only action came from drivers hitting one another.

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 9:50 pm
by Wrathbone
Leclerc is like the anti-Bottas: an exceptional racer but a clumsy driver.

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:27 am
by DjchunKfunK
I didn't watch the race, only read a report, did Perez really cut a chicane to keep a place and not have to give the place back?

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:02 am
by eny
Sort of, it's this old outbraking to dive inside then deny the line of the guy who cannot turn out of his commit bollocks. Only this time it was Russell, who followed the "front wheel back wheel which isn't really a solution" rule. So they didn't punish Perez, as it was an equivalent iffy move on both of them. I don't know if this issue will ever be clearly resolved tbh, because there is the racing line/racing bravado payoff to overtaking within an apex, so they are just going to continue to judge each incident on its own merits.

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:56 am
by Raid
It feels like Perez did gain an advantage from it, but I don't think Russell had a right to complain as he very much forced him into it. It's a difficult one to judge.

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:03 am
by eny
I am a big fan of Russell and his approach. I get the feeling that he unwillingly embraces this tactic purely because every other fucker is now. Imperious when it succeeds, reckless when it doesn't. I want racing, and overtaking, but pig-headed and playing chicken will have a limit that hasn't been found yet I fear...

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:12 pm
by Drarok
Didn't Perez rejoin incorrectly from his forced off, or am I misremembering?

He definitely didn't owe RUS the place, it was a clumsy dive that left PER nowhere to go. How RUS still thought it was a valid move in the cool-down room watching the replay is beyond me. I figured from what he could see down in the car it could look different, but when he was flailing at the screen he lost some points with me.