Star Wars The Rise Of Skywalker - the last film in the saga
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This is getting pummeled more than I would like
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All the Stars Wars faithful that I know love it, one was even reduced to tears.
Myself, I'll not be bothering with the cinema - I was underwhelmed enough by The Force Awakens that I didn't bother with The Last Jedi at the flicks and I'm glad as that was a turgid shite.
Myself, I'll not be bothering with the cinema - I was underwhelmed enough by The Force Awakens that I didn't bother with The Last Jedi at the flicks and I'm glad as that was a turgid shite.
Re: Star Wars The Rise Of Skywalker - the last film in the saga
There will be people who would hate it no matter what they did with it. As Churchill said, the definition of a fanatic is someone who won’t change their mind and won’t shut up about it, and sadly that describes a substantial portion of the supposed Star Wars fan base.
I’m watching in about an hour. I’m going in with an open mind, but I’ll be surprised if I don’t enjoy it. At the very least I don’t expect to come out of it as one of the swivel-eyed haters.
EDIT - Yep, loved it. An imperfect but thoroughly satisfying end to the saga. Some of you are going to loathe it.
I’m watching in about an hour. I’m going in with an open mind, but I’ll be surprised if I don’t enjoy it. At the very least I don’t expect to come out of it as one of the swivel-eyed haters.
EDIT - Yep, loved it. An imperfect but thoroughly satisfying end to the saga. Some of you are going to loathe it.
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so....
who has seen it ?
I will wait till it hits shiver me timbers
who has seen it ?
I will wait till it hits shiver me timbers
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Re: Star Wars The Rise Of Skywalker - the last film in the saga
Same here, I was going to see it in January when all the fuss died down but my old bones aren't up to 3hr+ in a cinema seat anymore.Achtung Englander wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:12 pmso....
who has seen it ?
I will wait till it hits shiver me timbers
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Re: Star Wars The Rise Of Skywalker - the last film in the saga
I don't really want to say anything and preset people's expectations.
Let's say I went in with low expectations and survived the experience.
I mean I go and watch films like these for the spectacle and the effects and the experience on the BIG screen - if the story is great that's just an added bonus.
Let's say I went in with low expectations and survived the experience.
I mean I go and watch films like these for the spectacle and the effects and the experience on the BIG screen - if the story is great that's just an added bonus.
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Re: Star Wars The Rise Of Skywalker - the last film in the saga
Saw it, loved it, agree with Wrathbone that those who didn't like the previous two will loathe it.
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Saw it last night and having slept on it, that is the single worst thing to happen to the Star Wars franchise since Jarjar Bink's (And I enjoyed the last two well enough for what that's worth).
Horribly writing, mostly nonsensical and utterly shit.
Which is a shame, because there is a nugget of a superb Star Wars story in there, it's just strung together with 10p sausages. There are some great scenes and visuals but it's all ruined by Abrahms having an utter lack of capability to tell an original story.
Shame really.
Horribly writing, mostly nonsensical and utterly shit.
Which is a shame, because there is a nugget of a superb Star Wars story in there, it's just strung together with 10p sausages. There are some great scenes and visuals but it's all ruined by Abrahms having an utter lack of capability to tell an original story.
Shame really.
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Some thoughts now I’ve had a couple of days to process it.
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Yeah, it really is a mess in places, but it’s a big, wondrous Star Wars mess that works far better than it should do provided you can forgive its foibles and go with it. Ultimately it’s like the Dagobah cave: you’ll get out what you take with you. If you go in expecting it to be bad, you’ll see its many flaws and focus on them. But if you go in expecting joyful, powerful Star Wars rollicks, it will provide that by the bucketload.Re: Star Wars The Rise Of Skywalker - the last film in the saga
I for one would be disappointed that after 30 something years the series hasn't really advanced in any meaningful way whatsoever, in fact it has quite significantly declined in quality from the originals. Silly space opera campness aside, the original story stands the test of time because it tells a compelling tale with good characters. The troubles this trilogy has had has absolutely killed it in terms of storytelling, and that's the big issue for me alongside the mediocre characters and crazy development.
Though to be fair, even if Abrams had been in control of the entire trilogy I'm not convinced it would have been a great deal better. He's a total hack of a producer and writer. All of his writing seems to start with a good idea and then end up going nowhere, he just can't seem to polish his ideas. Force Awakens is a good example of it, that movie starts so well. It's a shame the new trilogy couldn't keep up the quality past the first hour/first movie.
I'm not part of the Star Wars torches and pitchfork mob that is so vocal online. TFA was enjoyable enough and felt special just for being the first major return to the franchise in so long, Rogue One was actually pretty decent. The less said about TLJ the better, there is so little redeeming about that movie.
I'll be going to see this after Christmas and just enjoying it for what it is. But that's the silly thing, it gets a free pass because it's Star Wars, if it were any other sci-fi movie or a new franchise then nobody would give it a second look.
Though to be fair, even if Abrams had been in control of the entire trilogy I'm not convinced it would have been a great deal better. He's a total hack of a producer and writer. All of his writing seems to start with a good idea and then end up going nowhere, he just can't seem to polish his ideas. Force Awakens is a good example of it, that movie starts so well. It's a shame the new trilogy couldn't keep up the quality past the first hour/first movie.
I'm not part of the Star Wars torches and pitchfork mob that is so vocal online. TFA was enjoyable enough and felt special just for being the first major return to the franchise in so long, Rogue One was actually pretty decent. The less said about TLJ the better, there is so little redeeming about that movie.
I'll be going to see this after Christmas and just enjoying it for what it is. But that's the silly thing, it gets a free pass because it's Star Wars, if it were any other sci-fi movie or a new franchise then nobody would give it a second look.
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nicely put Mantis
I would like to know what Lucas originally planned for 7-9 but the problem is that History never ends. So the fact it is a saga about something - the rise and fall and rise of Skywalkers - should really have finished with ROTJ. I have not seen the TROS but I know a lot as I don't care about spoilers at this point and the main criticism of this new trilogy is that they are totally directionless and it feels like a open argument between 2 directors and a producer who has totally lost the plot.
It is a real shame as they could have done something really interesting with the original cast as older people in a universe that maybe has no time for them. The problem is that Star Wars is essentially a simple story of good v evil and when that evil was destroyed in ep. 6 - where do you go from there ? We all know ep 7 was a rehash of ep 4.
The producers should have taken a bold move and have the Republic fall into a civil war or maybe have 2 factions rise up and a cold war ensues with plots and mascinations (as we saw with the end of WWII). I don't know. All I know is that ep 7 - 9 is a disjointed mess.
I would like to know what Lucas originally planned for 7-9 but the problem is that History never ends. So the fact it is a saga about something - the rise and fall and rise of Skywalkers - should really have finished with ROTJ. I have not seen the TROS but I know a lot as I don't care about spoilers at this point and the main criticism of this new trilogy is that they are totally directionless and it feels like a open argument between 2 directors and a producer who has totally lost the plot.
It is a real shame as they could have done something really interesting with the original cast as older people in a universe that maybe has no time for them. The problem is that Star Wars is essentially a simple story of good v evil and when that evil was destroyed in ep. 6 - where do you go from there ? We all know ep 7 was a rehash of ep 4.
The producers should have taken a bold move and have the Republic fall into a civil war or maybe have 2 factions rise up and a cold war ensues with plots and mascinations (as we saw with the end of WWII). I don't know. All I know is that ep 7 - 9 is a disjointed mess.
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It really isn’t. So many people say this, and I have to wonder if they’ve given it more than a moment’s thought. Aside from some superficial similarities they’re very different, and in some factors intentionally opposite.
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Could it just be that this whole Star Wars thing was never that good to begin with?
You can't polish a turd and all that.
You can't polish a turd and all that.
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No.Medicine Man wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:20 pmCould it just be that this whole Star Wars thing was never that good to begin with?
The biggest hurdle that I think these new films have had is also what's probably made Disney the most money. The new trilogy has lived in the shadow of the originals, and how exactly do you get the audience invested in Rey, Finn and Poe when they're sharing so much screen time with the legendary Luke, Leia and Han, while flying around in the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs? Don't get me wrong, I loved every minute that the original heroes spent on screen, but this shouldn't have been their trilogy.