Star Trek: Picard
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Stewart unfortunately just sounds like that now. He's lost that commanding tone he had during most of his career, but the guy is in his 80s now so it's hardly surprising. Jean Luc was 94 by the end of the first season of Picard, and while we've seen far older humans in the show (McCoy appears in the first episode of TNG at the age of 137), I think showing him as deteriorating is reasonable.
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I mean that's fine, but I don't remember 137-year-old McCoy tearing around the galaxy like an action starRaid wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:42 amStewart unfortunately just sounds like that now. He's lost that commanding tone he had during most of his career, but the guy is in his 80s now so it's hardly surprising. Jean Luc was 94 by the end of the first season of Picard, and while we've seen far older humans in the show (McCoy appears in the first episode of TNG at the age of 137), I think showing him as deteriorating is reasonable.
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I don't remember Picard "tearing around the galaxy like an action star" at the age of 94 either, at least not under his own steam. He does a fair bit of walking, perhaps some shouting, piloting a ship, but he's hardly punching Borg to death.
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Surely the end of season 1 has an impact on that...
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I suspect the limitations of the actor portraying him will affect that.
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They specifically said at the end of season 1 that…
I can’t get over how stupid that ending was.
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I can’t get over how stupid that ending was.
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I think I've stricken the majority of it from memory, I was so frustrated with that ending. If it had happened in TNG I'd have been quite excited as there are so many philosophical discussions that should result from it, but with the nature of modern Star Trek I'm just expecting it to mean Picard now has phaser vision.
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Finished season 2 and that was not as bad as I had heard here and other places!
Ok I hated:
Now there is an additional caveat that may have coloured my opinion. I stopped Discovery after S2 and figured I should maybe catch up so I did a dumb thing and decided to start from S1 again and the first 2 episodes of S1 are some of the absolute worst pish ever to spew from a Trek writers pen. I feel like I would even feel positive about the shitey reboot movies if I happen to watch them along side the start of Discovery season 1. Michael is maybe worse than Elnor. I’ll give it two things though, the cloaked ramming was cool as hell and I also liked the jail cell open to space during a space battle - though not how she got free guilt tripping the computer.
Ok I hated:
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Now I realise that’s like 98% of the show but I did like
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It annoyed me lots but I don’t think there was any point I was as annoyed as I was at the end of season 1. It’s one of the better Trek things of late. Maybe.Now there is an additional caveat that may have coloured my opinion. I stopped Discovery after S2 and figured I should maybe catch up so I did a dumb thing and decided to start from S1 again and the first 2 episodes of S1 are some of the absolute worst pish ever to spew from a Trek writers pen. I feel like I would even feel positive about the shitey reboot movies if I happen to watch them along side the start of Discovery season 1. Michael is maybe worse than Elnor. I’ll give it two things though, the cloaked ramming was cool as hell and I also liked the jail cell open to space during a space battle - though not how she got free guilt tripping the computer.
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I genuinely can't decide whether Picard S2 or Discovery S3 was worse (I haven't seen S4). They both contain some of the worst writing I've ever seen this franchise produce; not just the dialogue, but the utterly stupid scenes they contain. The producers evidently have no idea what made the franchise popular. Picard S2 compounds the stupid ending to S1, opting not for the philosophical goldmine of the nature of consciousness and Picard's true understanding of what made Data who he was, and instead went with "Picard is a robot now so he blows up a defibrillator lol".
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I long to just forget the whole thing exists, but typing all of that out made me actually angry. Fucking hell it's dire. I don't want to thank a deity for Strange New Worlds yet, as I've misplaced my trust in modern Trek before, but it's infinitely better.Re: Star Trek: Picard
All fair points but due to how low Trek writing standards have fallen it’s not that bad in context. Yes it makes Encounter At Farpoint seem masterful but we live in a Trek era where the Beastie Boys are a super weapon.
Maybe they’re just trying to make Enterprise seem good, in context. Mission accomplished!
I think I’ll catch up with Discovery before watching SNW because I’m a sadist. I’m kind of looking forward to Michelle Yeoh’s spin off. I don’t think it’ll be good but I really like Michelle Yeoh. Now I’m giggling to myself thinking about when they really needed pattern enhancers but instead drew a com badge in the sand to get beamed out. Fuck off Discovery!
Maybe they’re just trying to make Enterprise seem good, in context. Mission accomplished!
I think I’ll catch up with Discovery before watching SNW because I’m a sadist. I’m kind of looking forward to Michelle Yeoh’s spin off. I don’t think it’ll be good but I really like Michelle Yeoh. Now I’m giggling to myself thinking about when they really needed pattern enhancers but instead drew a com badge in the sand to get beamed out. Fuck off Discovery!
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Do I have any faith it will be good? Nope! Is it a very good trailer at twirling my nostalgia bone. Yes it is! I hope it’s good because it would be nice to have a good send off for TNG.
I’d actually kind of like a series where they all just chill and be old and there’s no massive threat beyond the drama of grape picking and will he won’t he snuggle Beverly(and do robots need viagra). They’ve been through enough, they should be reveling in a peaceful galaxy that all their hard work created.
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I feel pretty much the same way, but we *had* a good send off for TNG - it was Picard sitting down at the senior officers' poker game for the first time at the end of All Good Things. They tried to give us another at the end of Nemesis, which was Data's... wake, I guess? Then, years afterwards, Picard got to have a chat with Data and say goodbye.
It feels like every time they do a send-off for the TNG crew, it's less meaningful, and I just don't trust the creative team behind Picard. I'm mostly just wondering who they're going to kill this time.
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I’ve been catching up on Picard seasons 2 and 3 while I’ve been off sick. 2 is total crap, as others have said, but 3 is pretty great and at times is peak Star Trek for me, hitting all the notes that made TNG my favourite. A friend had told me that I could skip season 2 entirely as 3 basically ignores it, and I didn’t appreciate how literally true that is - you could go from season 1 to 3 and not miss anything, and I wish I’d done that.
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I'm thoroughly enjoying season 3 (haven't seen this week's yet). I've been reluctant to gush about it because I'm still waiting for a crushing disappointment given how seasons 1 and 2 turned out. I have a few quibbles over some of the dialogue; one TNG alumni utters something completely out of character for the sake of over-dramatising that really irked me after what was otherwise a superb episode, but minor irritations like that really haven't spoiled the experience. What I believe to be the first half (I think it's a 10 episode season) feels very much like an homage to Wrath of Khan, which is no bad thing.
Edit: I'm editing this because some of the stuff I originally said doesn't really apply now that I've seen the latest episode (which is excellent).
Edit: I'm editing this because some of the stuff I originally said doesn't really apply now that I've seen the latest episode (which is excellent).
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And that’s the end of season 3 (and the Picard series).
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